RE: Industry environmental initiative waning -- evidencefrom33/50?

["Melinda Dower" <Melinda.Dower@dep.state.nj.us>]

Not only were they overstated, many of the chemicals were banned and
therefore had to be replaced.
Melinda Dower
NJDEP
(609) 292-1122

>>> Program on Solid Waste Policy <pswp@yale.edu> 12/20/02 03:20PM >>>
I'm a little late in responding to this part of the thread, but I
thought 
that it would be interesting nonetheless to note that careful analysis
of 
the 33/50 program suggests that many of the reductions attributed to it

were overstated.  See, the important article by Kathryn Harrison:

Harrison, K.  1998.  "Talking with the Donkey: Cooperative Approaches
to 
Environmental Protection" Journal of Industrial Ecology 2(2): 
1-22.  [available at <mitpress.mit.edu/JIE/sample_articles>]


Reid Lifset
Industrial Environmental Management Program
Yale University

At 09:56 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, Iannuzzi, Al [JJCUS] wrote:

>ok everyone - I work for industry and all I have to say is 33/50
program = 
>824 million pounds of toxic chemical releases removed from the 
>environment, Green Lights & energy Star = Over 6 billion square feet
of 
>building space is now more energy efficient resulting in the
elimination 
>of 10.5 billion pounds of carbon dioxide and significant amounts of 
>nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, particulates and toxic metals.  All 
>voluntary programs.
>
>Look at the annual environmental reports of companies - many are 
>voluntarily reducing emissions.  The question is - how can we get more

>firms to voluntarily reduce pollutants?  Do we really think that going

>through the traditional regulatory process is the way to get more
improvement?
>
>Enforcement is necessary, but it is only a part of the picture. You
have 
>to do both to improve the environment in today's climate.
>
>Al Iannuzzi
>WW Environmental Affairs
>732-524-6382
>Fax 3296
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Minicucci, Bob 
>[<mailto:rminicucci@des.state.nh.us>mailto:rminicucci@des.state.nh.us]

>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:05 AM
>To: Melinda Dower; NPPR@great-lakes.net; P2Tech@great-lakes.net;
>Todd_MacFadden@uml.edu 
>Subject: RE: Industry environmental initiative waning?
>
>What are we doing to encourage that 10% in the 'leadership' category
to 
>become 20%, 50%, 98%?  (It'll never be 100%, after all.)
>
>Bob Minicucci
>NH DES
>603-271-2941
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Melinda Dower 
>[<mailto:Melinda.Dower@dep.state.nj.us>mailto:Melinda.Dower@dep.state.nj.us]

>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:00 AM
>To: NPPR@great-lakes.net; P2Tech@great-lakes.net;
Todd_MacFadden@uml.edu 
>Subject: Re: Industry environmental initiative waning?
>
>Having been a "closet enforcer" for many years, I am heartened to see
>everyone's conclusions about the limited effectiveness of voluntary
>programs--I feel like I can come out of the closet now. Even here in
NJ, 
>where P2 Planning is mandatory but implementation of P2 measures is
>
>voluntary, I have had numerous corporate representatives comment that
>they would be implementing much more P2 if it were mandatory.
>Regulations drive corporate behavior far more than anything voluntary
>(with the exception of the maybe 10% high performers who are doing
great 
>P2 and have integrated P2 into their own performance measures).
>
>It is also important to note that government has not delivered on its
>promises to provide flexibility.
>
>Melinda Dower
>Research Scientist
>N.J. Department of Environmental Protection
>
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