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RE: BEACHNET==> Response to Lake/Stream Currents



I agree, numbered  oranges (magic marker), float just below the surface and are minimally affected by wind.  

 

Charles Shabica, Ph.D., P.G.

President

 

Shabica & Associates, Inc.

Beach Design & Shore Protection

550 Frontage Road, Suite 3735

Northfield, IL 60093

Tel:  847.446.1436

Fax: 847.446.5976

charles@shabica.com

 

 


From: owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net [mailto:owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Briggs
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:33 PM
To: beachnet@great-lakes.net; William Boria
Subject: BEACHNET==> Response to Lake/Stream Currents

 

Thank you Barry for recommending the information from the Great Lakes Beach meeting in Indiana for William Boria in NY.  As an update, we are still working on getting the presentations online and working to set up another webcast of the sessions.  An announcement will be made soon.

 

Meantime, here are suggestions

the one from Dr. Alm

Great Lakes Environmental Research Lab is one group that has been looking at this:  http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/

 

a few more suggestions:

I realize this may sound odd, but some of the simplest experiments used marked oranges.

 

Also, USEPA provided the beach sanitary survey--Jump to the section on currents (page 5-4), this info is attached and available at  http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/beaches/sanitarysurvey/

 

In general, you might find helpful information in your state from the United States Geological Survey offices

ttp://ny.water.usgs.gov/

 

Also, I recommend reading research work from Stanley Grant from UC-Irvine.  Dr. Grant has written several articles and one of his lectures was webcasted and is available online at Michigan State University

scroll down the page until you see the lectures given on April 20

 

April 20, 2007: Transport of Pathogens, Dr. Stanley Grant, UC-Irvine and Dr. Jeanette Thurston-Enriquez, USDA Agricultural Research Service

April 20 Flyer (pdf)
Background paper by Dr. Thurston-Enriquez (pdf)
Paper by Dr. Grant (pdf)
WebCast
Presentation by Dr. Thurston-Enriquez (pdf)
Presentation by Dr. Grant (pdf)


I hope that gets you started,

Shannon

 

Shannon Briggs, Ph.D.
Department of Environmental Quality
Water Bureau
P.O. Box 30273
Lansing, MI 48909
email:  briggss4@michigan.gov
Phone 517-335-1214
Fax 517-373-9958


>>> "Barry Rice" <Barry.Rice@odh.ohio.gov> 10/28/2008 2:10 PM >>>

Dear Mr. Boria,

Thank you for contacting the Bureau of Environmental Health of the Ohio Department of Health. I have been asked to respond to your question on behalf for the bureau.

 

In the short time I have been involved with the US EPA Beach grant program I have not entertained a question quite like yours. Your premise sounds intriguing but I am unaware of anyone that has made this proposal. I recently attended the Great Lakes Beach Association meeting in Porter, Indiana where I listened to many research presentations. One person that is heavily involved in that association as well as others, Dr.  Shannon Briggs, I believe would be a good contact for you to address your questions. She works for the state of Michigan and runs a lab facility and program that oversees 1,000 public beaches.   If she cannot help you I feel sure she can direct you to someone can.

 

I appreciate your interest in public bathing beaches and the effort to better understand the forces that work at these beaches to the betterment of the environment and for better recreational spaces available to the public.

 

If you have other questions please contact me at the addresses below.

 

Barry

 

Barry J Rice RS, BSEH

Program Specialist II

Bureau of Environmental Health, Ohio Department of Health

 

246 North High St

Columbus. Ohio 43215-2412

Phone:     614.466.1390

FAX:         614.466.4556

E-mail:     barry.rice@odh.ohio.gov

Web site: www.odh.ohio.gov

 

 

Barry J Rice RS, BSEH

Program Specialist II

Bureau of Environmental Health, Ohio Department of Health

 

246 North High St

Columbus. Ohio 43215-2412

Phone:     614.466.1390

FAX:         614.466.4556

E-mail:     barry.rice@odh.ohio.gov

Web site: www.odh.ohio.gov

 

From: LakeErieBeachNetwork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LakeErieBeachNetwork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Boria, William
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:04 PM
To: LakeErieBeachNetwork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LakeErieBeachNetwork] Lake/Stream Currents

 

Does anyone have experience or suggestions for evaluating the role that
lake currents play in transporting contaminants towards beach areas? I'm
especially interested on evaluating currents from streams that discharge
near beaches? I'm thinking about using tracers of some sort in the
streams to determine how stream flow interacts with lake currents along
shore. Information on methods (especially low cost ones) would be
appreciated.

William T. Boria
Water Resource Specialist
7 North Erie St
Mayville, NY 14757
Phone: 716.753.4481
Fax: 716.753.4344
boriaw@co.chautauqua.ny.us

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